Transformation · lines 3, 4, and 5

Excesses becomes The Army

Starting hexagram
Resulting hexagram

What this change means

Water gathers in the earth as the third, fourth and fifth lines move, and a sagging structure calls for discipline. The two judgments stand together. Excesses describes a load that exceeds what normal methods can bear, so you have to strengthen foundations and dare something new to avoid loss. The resulting hexagram, 7 The Army, says the favorable answer comes from discipline and organization: face the situation directly and say clearly what you want, without imposing it. Together they turn the extraordinary into a plan. Don't improvise under pressure. Organize your resources, assign roles, and speak plainly about what's needed. The image of the resulting hexagram speaks of taking in and caring for many people, so lead those involved with care, not force. Order is the reinforcement this beam needs.

What to read, in order

Marked ● is what Zhu Xi's tradition puts at the center for this number of moving lines.

  1. The judgment of 28 Excesses

    You're in a situation that calls for extraordinary measures to keep what you've achieved from collapsing. Check and strengthen the foundations that hold up your projects, take innovative action and step out of your comfort zone. That way your success is assured; otherwise, loss can't be avoided.

    The ridgepole sags. It is favorable to have somewhere to go. Success.

  2. The judgment of 7 The Army

    Whatever your question, the favorable answer comes from acting with discipline and organization: face the situation head-on and speak clearly, say what you want, without trying to impose it.

    The constancy of a seasoned leader brings good fortune. No fault.

  3. Line 3 of 28 Excesses

    Acting hastily and not listening to advice will lead you to loss, because in the end no one will want to help you.

    The ridgepole sags. Misfortune.

  4. Line 4 of 28 Excesses

    You can receive help from those under you now, but if you take advantage of it and there's no balance between giving and receiving, they'll withdraw their support and there will be loss.

    The ridgepole rises. Good fortune. If there is something else, distress.

  5. Line 5 of 28 Excesses

    When you focus on strengthening ties with those above you but forget to pay attention to those you lead, your success will be limited.

    The withered poplar puts out flowers. An old woman takes a young husband. No fault, no praise.

The trigrams

Below Wind Water
Above Lake Earth

The way back

7 The Army → 28 Excesses
lines 3, 4, and 5

Other transformations of Excesses

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