Transformation · lines 1 and 4

Meeting becomes Initial Obstacles

Starting hexagram
Resulting hexagram

What this change means

Thunder stirs below and the lake above turns to Water: clouds and thunder, the look of hard beginnings. The fourth line leads this movement. When you act without selfish aims, for the sake of someone above you, the reward tends to follow. The first line adds the hesitation of someone who knows they need allies but hasn't yet decided to ask. The resulting hexagram, 3 Initial Obstacles, explains why that pairing matters: this isn't the time to act directly yourself. Find people who can speak and act on your behalf, trustworthy representatives, and stay alert for the moment to take the initiative back. So make up your mind, reach out, and put your effort at the service of a larger aim. Your selflessness is what makes others willing to stand in for you. Things may feel tangled at first; they're tangled because they're new, not because they're wrong.

What to read, in order

Marked ● is what Zhu Xi's tradition puts at the center for this number of moving lines.

  1. Line 4 of 45 Meeting

    When you act without selfish aims and on behalf of someone above you, you're rewarded.

    Great good fortune. No fault.

  2. Line 1 of 45 Meeting

    You know you need to meet with people who will support you, but you're unsure whether to do it. If you finally make up your mind and act, you'll get help.

    There is sincere trust, but not to the end: now disorder, now gathering. If you cry out, one clasp of the hand and laughter returns. Do not worry. Going: no fault.

  3. The judgment of 45 Meeting

    A very favorable situation is coming, with everything ready for you to take the next step toward your goals. You can ask for help and meet with those who will support you. It's a time to take on important things, do some kind of spiritual practice, and prepare in case anything unexpected happens.

    Success. The king comes to his temple. It is favorable to see the great person. Success. Constancy is favorable. Offering large animals brings good fortune. It is favorable to have somewhere to go.

  4. The judgment of 3 Initial Obstacles

    This isn't the time to act directly: look for people who can act for you, allies who represent you. Still, stay alert so you know when the time comes to take back the initiative and control.

    Great success. Constancy is favorable. Having somewhere to go is of no use yet. It is favorable to install lords.

The trigrams

Below Earth Thunder
Above Lake Water

The way back

3 Initial Obstacles → 45 Meeting
lines 1 and 4

Other transformations of Meeting

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